[Caevlist] New Oregon registration fees for EVs

Fri Nov 29 17:47:37 PST 2019

Wouldn't it be easier, fairer and more honest to tax tires?  Ya gotta buy
tires no matter what fuel you use. They could even get bikes and off-road
vehicles that way.

Robert

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 2:19 PM Paul Wallace <ianaudio at peak.org> wrote:

> When I first registered my truck, I had to point out to the DMV clerk that
> they were supposed to charge me 2x the standard registration cost since it
> is electric.  They looked it up in their books and sure enough, it was so
> noted.  I am a fan of weight mile, or at lease milage charges for all
> vehicles which aren’t commercial, since the weight of the vehicle plus the
> miles driven are what do the damage to the roads and supporting
> infrastructure.  I thought that even with just milage charges, it would
> relatively easy to collect as you must mark down your current odometer
> reading when updating registration.  Should be very straight forward to
> collect during the registration process without a significant (2 x)
> increase in costs.  Now they have layered a complete agency in place to
> deal with the technology of monitoring your miles though the OBDII port.
> Next thing you will need is to have an OBDII hub so that you can plug in
> the milage monitor and your OBDII to BlueTooth dongle for LeafSpy or Torque.
>
> Paul
>
> On Nov 29, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Lawrence Winiarski <
> lawrence_winiarski at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> This wasn't exactly publicized.   It was snuck into the complete highway
> bill instead of a separate bill.
>
> The politicians who voted for it probably didn't even read it.    Or at
> least that's what they will claim when the
> stuff starts hitting the fan.
>
> I'm pretty sure the average guy with a prius doesn't realize that he's
> going to have much higher
> registration fees than the guy that gets 1mpg less.   Be nice if the
> papers/facebook/social media could publicize it.
>
> I'd like to put on who voted for it also.
>
> I'm glad Craig Hudson found it otherwise I wouldn't have even known about
> it.   I had an inkling when they started
> putting a "hybrid" checkmark on the registration last year.
>
> Make no mistake...What this is, is an attempt to avoid raising the gas
> tax, which affects everyone, so instead they
> want a way to generate revenue by dividing and conquering and doing it as
> secretly as possible without the
> voters noticing.    It's not nice.   It's actually kind of evil.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, November 29, 2019, 1:28:35 PM PST, Paul Wallace <
> ianaudio at peak.org> wrote:
>
>
> Interesting how collection and program costs double in the current
> biennium, as noted on pp3.
>
> Paul
>
> On Nov 29, 2019, at 1:16 PM, Craig Hudson <craighudson150 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Like many, I was not aware of the impact to us conversion folks....
>
> Fiscally, it raises $930M next biennium and grows as more efficient
> vehicles hit the market.
> https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2017R1/Downloads/MeasureAnalysisDocument/40077
> It would be curious to learn how the gas tax revenue has decreased over
> the years.
>
> Voting recorded here... pretty much divided by the party lines
> https://gov.oregonlive.com/bill/2017/HB2017/
>
>    - House: 39 Yea and 20 Nay
>    - Senate: 22 Yea and 7 Nay
>
>
> Overwhelming support....
> https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2017R1/Downloads/FloorLetter/2231
>
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>  86 Pontiac Fiero - Zilla with 15kWh LiFePO4
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 10:28 PM Lawrence Winiarski <
> lawrence_winiarski at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Know who voted for this and who didn't?   Be nice to know.
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 27, 2019, 8:16:28 PM PST, Craig Hudson <
> craighudson150 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> It was bound to happen.... Oregon legislature approved EVs paying a "gas
> tax" thru their registration fees starting Jan 2020.   Checkout top of
> page 15 in HB2017
> <https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2017R1/Downloads/MeasureDocument/HB2017/Enrolled>.
> Electric vehicles pay an additional $220 on top of the new DMV rates for a
> 2 year registration.
>
> *High-mileage passenger vehicles*
>
> Fuel economy                         Four years   Two years
> 40+ mpg NOT in OReGO           $304          $152
> 40+ mpg enrolled in OReGO    $172           $86
> Electric NOT in OReGO             $612           $306
> Electric enrolled in OReGO      $172            $86
> If you drive less than 6100 mi/yr ($110/0.018) and can install an OBD-II
> reader to let ODOT track your mileage, then OReGO will save you money.
> Check more at www.MyOReGO.org/calculator
> <https://www.myorego.org/calculator>
>
> Oregon is part of 19 other states trying to fund their road
> infrastructure....
>
> http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/nhpr/files/electric_vehicle_fees_2017.pdf
>
> Electric passenger vehicle registrations in Oregon broke 25K this past
> summer...Oregon has 3.2M registered passenger vehicles.  So, electric
> remains less than 1 percent...
> https://www.oregon.gov/deq/FilterDocs/CFP-electicvehicles.pdf
> https://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/DMV/docs/2018_Vehicle_County_Registration.pdf
>
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> 503-798-6952
> 86 Pontiac Fiero - Zilla with 15kWh LiFePO4
>
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