[Caevlist] New Oregon registration fees for EVs
Paul Wallace
ianaudio at peak.org
Fri Nov 29 14:18:51 PST 2019
When I first registered my truck, I had to point out to the DMV clerk that they were supposed to charge me 2x the standard registration cost since it is electric. They looked it up in their books and sure enough, it was so noted. I am a fan of weight mile, or at lease milage charges for all vehicles which aren’t commercial, since the weight of the vehicle plus the miles driven are what do the damage to the roads and supporting infrastructure. I thought that even with just milage charges, it would relatively easy to collect as you must mark down your current odometer reading when updating registration. Should be very straight forward to collect during the registration process without a significant (2 x) increase in costs. Now they have layered a complete agency in place to deal with the technology of monitoring your miles though the OBDII port. Next thing you will need is to have an OBDII hub so that you can plug in the milage monitor and your OBDII to BlueTooth dongle for LeafSpy or Torque.
Paul
> On Nov 29, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Lawrence Winiarski <lawrence_winiarski at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> This wasn't exactly publicized. It was snuck into the complete highway bill instead of a separate bill.
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> The politicians who voted for it probably didn't even read it. Or at least that's what they will claim when the
> stuff starts hitting the fan.
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> I'm pretty sure the average guy with a prius doesn't realize that he's going to have much higher
> registration fees than the guy that gets 1mpg less. Be nice if the papers/facebook/social media could publicize it.
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> I'd like to put on who voted for it also.
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> I'm glad Craig Hudson found it otherwise I wouldn't have even known about it. I had an inkling when they started
> putting a "hybrid" checkmark on the registration last year.
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> Make no mistake...What this is, is an attempt to avoid raising the gas tax, which affects everyone, so instead they
> want a way to generate revenue by dividing and conquering and doing it as secretly as possible without the
> voters noticing. It's not nice. It's actually kind of evil.
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> On Friday, November 29, 2019, 1:28:35 PM PST, Paul Wallace <ianaudio at peak.org> wrote:
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> Interesting how collection and program costs double in the current biennium, as noted on pp3.
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> Paul
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>> On Nov 29, 2019, at 1:16 PM, Craig Hudson <craighudson150 at gmail.com <mailto:craighudson150 at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> Like many, I was not aware of the impact to us conversion folks....
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>> Fiscally, it raises $930M next biennium and grows as more efficient vehicles hit the market. https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2017R1/Downloads/MeasureAnalysisDocument/40077 <https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2017R1/Downloads/MeasureAnalysisDocument/40077> It would be curious to learn how the gas tax revenue has decreased over the years.
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>> Voting recorded here... pretty much divided by the party lines https://gov.oregonlive.com/bill/2017/HB2017/ <https://gov.oregonlive.com/bill/2017/HB2017/>
>> House: 39 Yea and 20 Nay
>> Senate: 22 Yea and 7 Nay
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>> Overwhelming support.... https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2017R1/Downloads/FloorLetter/2231 <https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2017R1/Downloads/FloorLetter/2231>
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>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 10:28 PM Lawrence Winiarski <lawrence_winiarski at yahoo.com <mailto:lawrence_winiarski at yahoo.com>> wrote:
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>> Know who voted for this and who didn't? Be nice to know.
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>> On Wednesday, November 27, 2019, 8:16:28 PM PST, Craig Hudson <craighudson150 at gmail.com <mailto:craighudson150 at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> It was bound to happen.... Oregon legislature approved EVs paying a "gas tax" thru their registration fees starting Jan 2020. Checkout top of page 15 in HB2017 <https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2017R1/Downloads/MeasureDocument/HB2017/Enrolled>. Electric vehicles pay an additional $220 on top of the new DMV rates for a 2 year registration.
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>> High-mileage passenger vehicles
>> Fuel economy Four years Two years
>> 40+ mpg NOT in OReGO $304 $152
>> 40+ mpg enrolled in OReGO $172 $86
>> Electric NOT in OReGO $612 $306
>> Electric enrolled in OReGO $172 $86
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>> If you drive less than 6100 mi/yr ($110/0.018) and can install an OBD-II reader to let ODOT track your mileage, then OReGO will save you money. Check more at www.MyOReGO.org/calculator <https://www.myorego.org/calculator>
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>> Oregon is part of 19 other states trying to fund their road infrastructure....
>> http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/nhpr/files/electric_vehicle_fees_2017.pdf <http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/nhpr/files/electric_vehicle_fees_2017.pdf>
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>> Electric passenger vehicle registrations in Oregon broke 25K this past summer...Oregon has 3.2M registered passenger vehicles. So, electric remains less than 1 percent...
>> https://www.oregon.gov/deq/FilterDocs/CFP-electicvehicles.pdf <https://www.oregon.gov/deq/FilterDocs/CFP-electicvehicles.pdf>
>> https://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/DMV/docs/2018_Vehicle_County_Registration.pdf <https://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/DMV/docs/2018_Vehicle_County_Registration.pdf>
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