<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">When I first registered my truck, I had to point out to the DMV clerk that they were supposed to charge me 2x the standard registration cost since it is electric. They looked it up in their books and sure enough, it was so noted. I am a fan of weight mile, or at lease milage charges for all vehicles which aren’t commercial, since the weight of the vehicle plus the miles driven are what do the damage to the roads and supporting infrastructure. I thought that even with just milage charges, it would relatively easy to collect as you must mark down your current odometer reading when updating registration. Should be very straight forward to collect during the registration process without a significant (2 x) increase in costs. Now they have layered a complete agency in place to deal with the technology of monitoring your miles though the OBDII port. Next thing you will need is to have an OBDII hub so that you can plug in the milage monitor and your OBDII to BlueTooth dongle for LeafSpy or Torque.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Paul<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 29, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Lawrence Winiarski <<a href="mailto:lawrence_winiarski@yahoo.com" class="">lawrence_winiarski@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><div class="ydpbd8f553ayahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">This wasn't exactly publicized. It was snuck into the complete highway bill instead of a separate bill.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">The politicians who voted for it probably didn't even read it. Or at least that's what they will claim when the</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">stuff starts hitting the fan.<br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">I'm pretty sure the average guy with a prius doesn't realize that he's going to have much higher</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">registration fees than the guy that gets 1mpg less. Be nice if the papers/facebook/social media could publicize it. <br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">I'd like to put on who voted for it also.<br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">I'm glad Craig Hudson found it otherwise I wouldn't have even known about it. I had an inkling when they started</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">putting a "hybrid" checkmark on the registration last year. <br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">Make no mistake...What this is, is an attempt to avoid raising the gas tax, which affects everyone, so instead they</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">want a way to generate revenue by dividing and conquering and doing it as secretly as possible without the <br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">voters noticing. It's not nice. It's actually kind of evil.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""> <br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div>
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On Friday, November 29, 2019, 1:28:35 PM PST, Paul Wallace <<a href="mailto:ianaudio@peak.org" class="">ianaudio@peak.org</a>> wrote:
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<div class=""><div id="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" class=""><div class="">Interesting how collection and program costs double in the current biennium, as noted on pp3.<div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882"><br class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" clear="none"></div><div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882">Paul<br class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" clear="none"><div class=""><br class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" clear="none"><blockquote class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" type="cite"><div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882yqt7162778010" id="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882yqt19449"><div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882">On Nov 29, 2019, at 1:16 PM, Craig Hudson <<a shape="rect" class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" href="mailto:craighudson150@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">craighudson150@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882Apple-interchange-newline" clear="none"><div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882"><div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" dir="ltr"><div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" dir="ltr">Like many, I was not aware of the impact to us conversion folks.... <div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882"><br class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" clear="none"><div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882">Fiscally, it raises $930M next biennium and grows as more efficient vehicles hit the market. <a shape="rect" class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" href="https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2017R1/Downloads/MeasureAnalysisDocument/40077" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2017R1/Downloads/MeasureAnalysisDocument/40077</a> It would be curious to learn how the gas tax revenue has decreased over the years.<div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882"><br class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" clear="none"><div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882">Voting recorded here... pretty much divided by the party lines <a shape="rect" class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" href="https://gov.oregonlive.com/bill/2017/HB2017/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://gov.oregonlive.com/bill/2017/HB2017/</a> <div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882"><ul class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882"><li class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882">House: 39 Yea and 20 Nay</li><li class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882">Senate: 22 Yea and 7 Nay </li></ul></div><div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882"><br class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" clear="none"></div><div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882">Overwhelming support....
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On Wednesday, November 27, 2019, 8:16:28 PM PST, Craig Hudson <<a shape="rect" class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" href="mailto:craighudson150@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">craighudson150@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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<div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882"><div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" id="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882gmail-m_3410813788882007708ydp39a979cyiv6251088201"><div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" dir="ltr"><span class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;font-size:11pt;">It was bound to happen.... Oregon legislature approved EVs paying a "gas tax" thru their registration fees starting Jan 2020. </span> Checkout top of page 15 in <a shape="rect" class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" href="https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2017R1/Downloads/MeasureDocument/HB2017/Enrolled" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">HB2017</a>. Electric vehicles pay an additional $220 on top of the new DMV rates for a 2 year registration.<div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882"><br class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" clear="none"><div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882"><div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882"><strong class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;font-size:11pt;">High-mileage
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OReGO $172 $86</p><div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882"><span class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;font-size:11pt;">If you drive less than 6100 mi/yr ($110/0.018) and </span><span class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;">can install an OBD-II reader to let ODOT track your mileage, then </span><span class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;font-size:11pt;">OReGO will save you money. Check more at </span><a shape="rect" class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" href="https://www.myorego.org/calculator" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(5,99,193);" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.MyOReGO.org/calculator</a></div><div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882"><br class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" clear="none"></div><div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882">Oregon is part of 19 other states trying to fund their road infrastructure.... </div><div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882"><a shape="rect" class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" href="http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/nhpr/files/electric_vehicle_fees_2017.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/nhpr/files/electric_vehicle_fees_2017.pdf</a></div><div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882"><br class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" clear="none"></div><div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882">Electric passenger vehicle registrations in Oregon broke 25K this past summer...Oregon has 3.2M registered passenger vehicles. So, electric remains less than 1 percent...</div><div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882"><a shape="rect" class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" href="https://www.oregon.gov/deq/FilterDocs/CFP-electicvehicles.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.oregon.gov/deq/FilterDocs/CFP-electicvehicles.pdf</a> </div><div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882"><a shape="rect" class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" href="https://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/DMV/docs/2018_Vehicle_County_Registration.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/DMV/docs/2018_Vehicle_County_Registration.pdf</a> </div><div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882"><br class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" clear="none"></div><div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882"><div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" dir="ltr"><div class="ydpb2a536d2yiv5108941882" dir="ltr">
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