<html><body><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Or, go even smaller, at less than 400lbs, to tent trailers designed to be towed behind motorcycles: https://www.timeouttrailers.org/<br></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><b>From: </b>"Craig Hudson" <craighudson150@gmail.com><br><b>To: </b>"Otmar Lists Account" <forum@evcl.com><br><b>Cc: </b>"Corvallis EV CLub" <caevlist@caevclub.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, April 5, 2021 1:18:12 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Caevlist] Towing with the Y<br></div><div><br></div><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Some great engineering in Houston at TAXA Outdoors. <a href="https://taxaoutdoors.com/habitats/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://taxaoutdoors.com/habitats/ </a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div><img src="cid:ii_kn50kx3q1" alt="image.png" width="462" height="130"><br></div><div><br><div>I'm thinking of the Woolly Bear with a customized front "nose cone" and some wheel "pants".... š<br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div>Here are their 3 models:</div><div>1500 pound Cricket (popup) <a href="https://youtu.be/J2aT94GdnII" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://youtu.be/J2aT94GdnII</a><br></div><div>1300 pound Tiger Moth (sleeps 2) <a href="https://youtu.be/_tBh5aFzASo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://youtu.be/_tBh5aFzASo</a><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>1300 pound
Woollybear (gear wagon) <a href="https://youtu.be/2UwiS7uU-FI" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://youtu.be/2UwiS7uU-FI</a><br></div><br><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><a name="SignatureSanitizer_SafeHtmlFilter_SafeHtmlFilter_1343864f503bee03_1343102ba3148e80_133145ee7b94f015_132d071ca1f01837__MailAutoSig"><span style="color:rgb( 42 , 113 , 191 );font-size:10pt">-------------------------------------------------------------------</span></a><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><b><i><span style="color:rgb( 42 , 113 , 191 );font-size:10pt">Craig Hudson</span></i></b><b><i><span style="color:rgb( 51 , 51 , 204 );font-size:10pt"> </span></i></b><i><span style="color:gray;font-size:8pt">Mobile </span></i><span style="color:gray;font-size:8pt">503-798-6952</span></p><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="color:gray;font-size:8pt">Poco Vineyards </span></div><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><br clear="all"> </p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:49 AM Otmar <<a href="mailto:forum@evcl.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">forum@evcl.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1ex">Thanks for the real world data. <br>
Iām sure we all know conceptually that towing increases energy use some. The thing I am realizing more and more is that having a very aerodynamic tow car, makes the trailer drag a higher impact by percentage than it might be with a tow vehicle that has higher aerodynamic loads to start with. <br>
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-Otmar, on mobile device.<br>
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-Otmar, on mobile device.<br>
> On Apr 5, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Alan Batie <<a href="mailto:alan@batie.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">alan@batie.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Aerodynamics really do matter - I drove up to Portland yesterday to look at a small tent trailer I've been giving some thought (only half seriously) to getting. As expected, they wouldn't let me take it for a "test tow", but I did get a new stinger with the 1 7/8" ball I need for my little utility trailer (the one I had on the RAV was for a smaller hitch and wouldn't work in the Model Y). This afternoon, I took my little utility trailer out for a test tow. On the way up to Portland at 70mph, I was consuming 270Wh/mile. Coming back at 75mph, it was just a hair under 300Wh/mile. Pulling the little, unloaded, utility trailer at 60mph out to Tangent...440Wh/mile, and for a brief run at 70mph, just over 500Wh/mile. Since I didn't have a cover on, I think I was hit aerodynamically with both the front of the trailer and the tailgate, so it's probably about what I can expect if I got the tent trailer. Between the $15k and the range hit, I think I'll just keep using a tent or a motel š<br>
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